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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Lun Mar 02, 2009 11:17 pm

I say it, a second hybrid model comming soon! And you see right! It will be between the FR200 and FR300 (maybe FR250h)!

For the ECT version, I think of a 2.0d diesel 4 cylindre with 177ch (FR177 ECT) from BMW! But I think it is important that Seba and Hp agree first to all the other engines! Wink
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mar Mar 03, 2009 11:27 pm

Hey everybody!!!! Where are you???
I'm waiting for your mind!!! Are you okay with my engine propositions? Question Question Question
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mar Mar 03, 2009 11:32 pm

Pour moi c'est ok, j'attend la confirme d'Hp pour inserer ces moteurs sur la page web de la Faraon Wink

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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mar Mar 03, 2009 11:36 pm

Je te prÚpare les traductions pour la fin de la semaine!!! Mes classes dans l'Úcole ou je travaille me prennent beaucoup de temps en ce moment! lol!

Cool!!!!! new engines for the Faraon! bounce
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mar Mar 03, 2009 11:43 pm

N'hesite pas a recruter nouveaux adeptes akenatonistes parmi tes eleves lol! lol! ... je rigole Wink

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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mer Mar 04, 2009 9:43 am

Here we are Jeremy! sunny
Many thanks for your work on the engine! flower
I really like the FR300h (4PL) + 8 Gear ZF Automatik box for Hybrid systems and I hope SEBA soon will prepare the new drawing to post in the website so we will have now the second 4PL car! cheers
The FR500 could be a good choice for a possible Ravage version Twisted Evil of course with the 6 Gear Multitronic/Tiptronic Automatik box!
For the basis version the FR200 + 7 Gear DSG Automatik box could be the right choice and the FR300 fits perfectly the intermediate version Cool
And in the end the FR400 4WD + 6 Gear Multitronic/Tiptronic Automatik box for the high version just before the Ravage Very Happy
As always Jeremy you did the right choices! king
Now I wait your proposition for the diesel engines bounce
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mer Mar 04, 2009 12:48 pm

Hp, I give some proposition for diesel engines, just under the other (in green and blue) lol!
Maybe you don't see it! lol!

FR 200d, FR 300d and FR 350d!!! sunny
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MessaggioOggetto: Ravage version!   Mer Mar 04, 2009 1:05 pm

For the Ravage version, I don't see the FR500, I see a better car!!! More power! Twisted Evil

I call it FR-R (R for Ravage Wink )!
Here my propositions:

6.5 V12 (from Lamborghini Murcielago) with 700ch
Couple de 720Nm Ó 6250tr/min
0-100km/h: 3.6s Vmax: 330km/h
Poids: 2135kg
Consommations: 34l (city) 16l (road) 22.5l (mixt)

This engine is very powerful, but really heavy!!!! So the Faraon will more be a GranTurismo than a really sport car! a little like the Bentley Continental Flying Spur!

5.0 V10 Bi-Turbo (from Audi RS6) with 600ch
Couple de 690Nm Ó 1500tr/min
0-100km/h: 4.1s Vmax: 300km/h
Poids: 2060kg
Consommations: 20l (city) 10l (road) 14l (mixt)

I think that's the best choice!

5.5 V8 Kompressor (from Mercedes SLR) with 626ch
Couple de 780Nm Ó 3250tr/min
0-100km/h: 4s Vmax: 320km/h
Poids: 2068kg
Consommations: 21l (city) 11l (road) 14.5l (mixt)

That's even a good choice!
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mer Mar 04, 2009 1:28 pm

jeremy57 ha scritto:
Hp, I give some proposition for diesel engines, just under the other (in green and blue) lol!
Maybe you don't see it! lol!

FR 200d, FR 300d and FR 350d!!! sunny

lol!
You're right.. I didn't see it.. sorry... Very Happy I was confused because a problem with Tulipano I love you Sad I hope it will get a solution soon Rolling Eyes
Well about the Ravage.. probably the FR500 (by the way what does it mean FR? Faraon? Very Happy ) has not that incredible power that deserves a Ravage version so let's go with the Mercedes Engine! cyclops
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mer Mar 04, 2009 1:32 pm

geek good propositions Twisted Evil But the Faraon Ravage I░ had 670cv... so, maybe a good engine for the Faraon Ravage II░ could be a 680/690cv engine...
now i don't know from what brand Smile
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mer Mar 04, 2009 2:04 pm

Yes FR = Faraon!!! What a Face

I think it's maybe possible to boost the Mercedes engine of more than 700ch!!!!! german tuner made it! lol!
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mer Mar 04, 2009 9:00 pm

Rodolfo is right Cool i think too that the good power is 680-690... no more
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MessaggioOggetto: Faraon Hybrid Concept FR 250h   Gio Mar 05, 2009 8:40 pm



So I present the second hybrid model on Faraon basis!
I call it FR 250h (because it's between the FR 200 and FR 300h)
Concept, because it's not official!

So it is based on the new Mercedes S 400 BlueHybrid Concept!
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MessaggioOggetto: Faraon Hybrid Concept FR 250h   Gio Mar 05, 2009 8:45 pm

The system is more simple than in the King Valley Hybrid!!

The main engine is a 3.5 V6 from Mercedes!
3.5 V6 272ch (200kw)
350Nm Ó 2400tr/min
Consommations: 11l (mixt)

and it's combinated to a small electric engine with 20ch! and lithium-ion batteries!
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MessaggioOggetto: Faraon Hybrid Concept FR 250h   Gio Mar 05, 2009 9:16 pm



So the total power of this engine is 299ch!! and 500Nm torque!! Very Happy
The consommation is 7.9l mixt!!! good for a so powerful engine!!

On the foto you see the engine!
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MessaggioOggetto: Faraon Hybrid Concept FR 250h   Gio Mar 05, 2009 9:24 pm



Here you see the fonctions of this engine in images!!!

But this engine, I say, it's more simple!!
The electric motor is here more a generator!!! It's impossible to drive in full electric!
The electric engine is here a good solution to have more power and lower consommations!
On the high way, the V6 engine don't work a lot!!! the electric engine gives the necessary power to drive fast!
(Sur l'autoroue le moteur Ó essence travaille peu, ou seulement Ó bas rÚgime donc en dessous de 3000tr/min, et le moteur electrique donne la puissance necessaire pour compenser, et continuer Ó rouler vite!)
It's very simple, the electric engine gives additional power!

In the city, the electric motor is a start and stop engine!! And when you brake, you recharge the batterie!!!
Clean power!!! I love you
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MessaggioOggetto: Faraon Hybrid Concept FR 250h   Gio Mar 05, 2009 9:28 pm



The electric engine is integrated to the 7gear automatik box!!
You see the electric engine, is small and the batterie also!!
That's the hybrid for everybody, and cheap to build!!
flower everybodys solution!! 4PL
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Ven Mar 06, 2009 2:13 am

bravissimo jeremy!!! Very Happy Very Happy (je ne pense pas de devoir traduire Wink )

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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Ven Mar 06, 2009 10:06 am

Really a nice choice as always Jeremy!

A small electric engine is something that is really needed if we want to make hybrid cars competitive! Idea
And on "big" cars the good idea is to have an electric engine which gives just more power (20hp are really what you need in the motorway in case in certain situation and you have this extra power for free Very Happy ) and allow a start/stop system and recovery power during breaking in an urban enviroment alien
Love this kind of motor!
The 4PL has one more member! santa
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MessaggioOggetto: other versions of the Faraon   Mer Mar 11, 2009 5:30 pm

Seba,
Y aura-t-il d'autres versions de la Faraon?
SW, CoupÚ et Cabriolet??
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mer Mar 11, 2009 7:49 pm

Surement les versions SW, coupŔ et shootingbreak qui avait deja le Faraon I... et puis on va voir, peut etre (mais ša depend du temps) une version
off-road Rolling Eyes

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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mer Mar 11, 2009 8:14 pm

et pas de cabriolet???? Shocked
Y aura t-il une Serapis Cabriolet ou CC???
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mer Mar 11, 2009 8:18 pm

Faraon cabrio je ne pense pas pour cet annee, mais serapis cabrio ou cc peut etre Rolling Eyes

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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Mer Mar 11, 2009 8:23 pm

Une Serapis Cabriolet ou CC, oui!!!! Cool Very Happy Very Happy
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MessaggioOggetto: Re: The new Faraon...   Ven Apr 03, 2009 1:47 am

The new Faraon SW Very Happy Arrow http://akenatonmotorsmagazine.blogspot.com/2009/04/faraon-ii-arriva-la-sw.html

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