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MessaggioTitolo: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Mar Gen 20, 2009 11:38 pm

Here my idea (I hope hp accept them and we put them in all Akenatons!) for new engines!:


Isis

1.4 TSI 122ch (90kw)
Couple de 200Nm à 1500tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 9s Vmax 204km/h
Consommations: 8l (ville) 4.9l (route) 6l (mixte)

Poids total d'environ 1150kg suivant équipement

1.4 TSI 160ch (118kw)

Couple de 240Nm à 2000tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 7.8s Vmax 225km/h

Consommations: 8l(ville) 5l (route) 6.1l (mixte)
Poids total d'environ 1180kg suivant équipement

Bast

1.4 TSI 160ch (118kw)
Couple de 240Nm à 2000tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 8s Vmax 225km/h
Consommations : 8.2l (ville) 5.1l (route) 6.2l (mixte)
Poids total : 1290kg

2.0 TSI 211ch (155kw)
Couple de 350Nm à 1500tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 6.6s Vmax 250km/h
Consommations : 8.7l (ville) 5l (route) 6.5l (mixte)
Poids total : 1350kg

2.0 TFSI 265ch (195kw) 4WD
Couple de 370Nm à 2500tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 5.7s Vmax 265km/h
Consommations : 11.8l (ville) 6.6l (route) 8.5l (mixte)
Poids total : 1520kg

2.0 TFSI 300ch 4WD Ravage
Couple de 390Nm à 2500tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 5.1s Vmax 280km/h
Consommations : 13l (ville) 7.5l (route) 9.7l (mixte)
Poids total : 1530kg

2.0 TDI CR 120ch (88kw) eCT
Couple de 290Nm à 1750tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 10.3s Vmax 205km/h
Consommations : 6.4l (ville) 4.1l (route) 5l (mixte)
Poids total : 1490kg

2.0 TDI CR 180ch (132kw)
Couple de 350Nm à 1500tr/min
0 à 100km/h 7.6s Vmax 225km/h
Consommations: 6.8l (ville) 4.3l (route) 5.1l (mixte)
Poids total : 1520kg

Serapis (new motors are included)

1.8 TFSI (turbo) 160cv (118kw)
250Nm di coppia a 1500giri/min
4 cilindri, trazione anteriore
peso a vuoto: 1490kg
0-100km/h in 8.7s Vmax: 225km/h
Consumi: 9.5l (urbano) 5.6l (extraurbano) 7l (media)
Disponibile con cambio automatico Multitronic a 6 rapporti o cambio manuale 6 rapporti

2.0 TFSI (turbo) 211cv (155kw)
350Nm di coppia 1500giri/min
4 cilindri, trazione anteriore
peso a vuoto: 1530kg
0-100km/h in 6.9s Vmax: 250km/h
Consumi: 9l (urbano) 5.2l (extraurbano) 6.5l (media)
Disponibile con cambio automatico Multitronic a 6 rapporti o cambio manuale 6 rapporti

3.2 V6 FSI 265ch (195kw)
330Nm de couple à 3000tr/min
V6, transmission intégrale du type Quattro!
poids à vide: 1660kg
0 à 100km/h en 6.2s Vmax: 250km/h
Consumi: 13l (ville) 6.6l (route) 8.9l (moyenne)
Disponible avec une boite auto Multitronic à 6 rapports ou boite manuelle 6 rapports


3.0 V6 TFSI 333ch (245kw)
Couple de 440Nm de 2900 à 5300tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 5.4s Vmax: 280km/h (electronical limited)
Consommations: 13.7l (ville) 7.2l (route) 9.6l (moyenne)
Poids : 1700kg


3.0 V6 TFSI 455ch (335kw) Ravage
Couple de 560Nm de 3000 à 5500tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 4.5s Vmax: 280km/h (electronical limited)
Consommations: 15.6l (ville) 9l (route) 11.5l (moyenne)

Poids: 1730kg

2.0 TDI CR 120ch (88kw) eCT
Couple de 290Nm à 1750tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 10.6s Vmax 205km/h
Consommations : 6.5l (ville) 4.3l (route) 5.2l (mixte)
Poids total : 1510kg

2.0 TDI (common rail) 170cv (125kw)
350Nm di coppia a 1750tr/min
peso a vuoto: 1530kg / 1630kg (4 ruote motrici)
0-100km/h in 8.3s Vmax: 230km/h
Consumi: 7.1l (urbano) 4.2l (extraurbano) 5.3l (media)
4 ruote motrici: 7.6l (urbano) 4.6l (extraurbano) 5.9l (media)
Disponibile con cambio automatico Multitronic a 6 rapporti o manuale a 6 rapporti

3.0 V6 TDI 240cv (176kw)
510Nm di coppia a 1500tr/min
peso a vuoto: 1730kg
0-100km/h in 6s Vmax: 250km/h
Consumi: 8.8l (urbano) 5.3l (extraurbano) 6.5l (media)
Disponibile con cambio automatico Multitronic a 6 rapporti o manuale a 6 rapporti


Aegyptus

2.0 TSI 211ch (155kw) 4WD
Couple de 350Nm à 1500tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 7.6s Vmax 222km/h
Consommations : 10.7l (ville) 6.8l (route) 8.3l (mixte)
Poids total : 1750kg

3.6 V6 FSI 300ch (220kw) 4WD DSG6
Couple de 350Nm à 2400tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 6.6s Vmax 240km/h
Consommations : 15.5l (ville) 9l (route) 11.3l (mixte)
Poids total : 1775kg

3.0 V6 TFSI 333ch (245kw) 4WD Ravage
Couple de 440Nm de 2900 à 5300tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 5.6s Vmax: 250km/h (electronical limited)
Consommations: 14.7l (ville) 8.1l (route) 10.4l (moyenne)
Poids : 1800kg


2.0 TDI CR 180ch (132kw) eCT
Couple de 350Nm à 1500tr/min
0 à 100km/h 9.4s Vmax 205km/h
Consommations: 8l (ville) 5.7l (route) 6.6l (mixte)
Poids total : 1805kg

3.0 V6 TDI 240cv (176kw) 4WD
510Nm di coppia a 1500tr/min
peso a vuoto: 1940kg
0-100km/h in 6.5s Vmax: 225km/h
Consumi: 9.2l (urbano) 6.6l (extraurbano) 7.5l (media)

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MessaggioTitolo: All new 2009 motor range! 2nd part   Mar Gen 20, 2009 11:40 pm

Faraon



2.0 TFSI 240ch (177kw)

Couple de 300Nm à 2200tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 7s Vmax 250km/h

Consommations : 11.4l (ville) 6.5l (route) 8.3l (mixte)

Poids total : 1650kg



3.0 V6 TFSI 290ch (213kw) 4WD

Couple de 420Nm à 2500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 6s Vmax 250km/h

Consommations : 13.2l (ville) 7.1l (route) 9.3l (mixte)

Poids total : 1780kg



4.2 V8 FSI 420ch (309kw) 4WD

Couple de 430Nm à 5500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 5s Vmax 280km/h

Consommations : 21.1l (ville) 9.7l(route) 13.9l (mixte)

Poids total : 1900kg



5.0 V10 FSI Biturbo 580ch (426kw) 4WD Ravage

Couple de 650Nm à 1500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 4.5s Vmax 300km/h

Consommations : 20.3l (ville) 10.2l (route) 13.9l (mixte)

Poids total : 2060kg



2.0 TDI CR 180ch (132kw) eCT

Couple de 350Nm à 1500tr/min

0 à 100km/h 8.9s Vmax 225km/h

Consommations: 7.5l(ville) 4.7l (route) 5.7l (mixte)

Poids total : 1640kg



3.0 V6 TDI 240cv (176kw) 4WD
510Nm di coppia a 1500tr/min
peso a vuoto: 1835kg
0-100km/h in 6.5s Vmax: 250km/h
Consumi: 8.9l (urbano) 5.4l (extraurbano) 6.7l (media)
















Uas



3.0 V6 TFSI 333ch (245kw) 4WD

Couple de 440Nm de 2900 à 5300tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 5.9s Vmax: 250km/h (electronical limited)
Consommations: 14.7l (ville) 8.1l (route) 10.4l (moyenne)
Poids : 1770kg




4.2 V8 FSI 420ch (309kw) 4WD

Couple de 440Nm à 3500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 5.2s Vmax 280km/h

Consommations : 16.8l (ville) 8.5l(route) 11.4l (mixte)

Poids total : 1880kg



5.0 V10 FSI Biturbo 580ch (426kw) 4WD

Couple de 650Nm à 1500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 4.7s Vmax 300km/h

Consommations : 20.3l (ville) 10.2l (route) 13.9l (mixte)

Poids total : 2020kg



3.0 V6 TDI 240cv (176kw) 4WD
510Nm di coppia a 1500tr/min
peso a vuoto: 1905kg
0-100km/h in 7.7s Vmax: 250km/h
Consumi: 11.5l (urbano) 6.4l (extraurbano) 8.4l (media)




4.2 V8 TDI 326ch (240kw) 4WD

Couple de 650Nm à 1600tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 5.9s Vmax : 250km/h

Consommations : 13.3l (ville) 7.2l (route) 9.4l (mixte)

Poids total : 2020kg



Sekmet



5.2 V10 FSI Biturbo 560ch (412kw) 4WD

Couple de 640Nm à 6500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 4s Vmax 320km/h

Consommations : 21.3l (ville) 10.8l (route) 14.4l (mixte)

Poids total : 1720kg



6.5 V12 640ch (471kw) 4WD Ravage

Couple de 660Nm à 6000tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 3.5s Vmax 340km/h

Consommations : 32.3l (ville) 15l (route) 21.3l (mixte)

Poids total : 1835kg











Cleopatras



3.0 V6 TFSI 290ch (213kw) 4WD

Couple de 420Nm à 2500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 6s Vmax 250km/h

Consommations : 13 l (ville) 6.9l (route) 9.1l (mixte)

Poids total : 1750kg



4.2 V8 FSI 420ch (309kw) 4WD

Couple de 430Nm à 5500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 5s Vmax 280km/h

Consommations : 20.8l (ville) 9.5l(route) 13.7l (mixte)

Poids total : 1880kg



5.0 V10 FSI Biturbo 580ch (426kw) 4WD Ravage

Couple de 650Nm à 1500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 4.3s Vmax 300km/h

Consommations : 19.7l (ville) 9.8l (route) 13.5l (mixte)

Poids total : 1990kg



KingValley



3.6 V6 FSI 300ch (220kw) 4WD

Couple de 360Nm à 2500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 8.3s Vmax 220km/h

Consommations : 17.8l (ville) 9.8l (route) 12.7l (mixte)

Poids total : 2200kg



4.2 V8 FSI 420ch (309kw) 4WD

Couple de 450Nm à 3500/min

0 à 100km/h en 7s Vmax 250km/h

Consommations : 20.1l (ville) 10.5l(route) 14l (mixte)

Poids total : 2240kg



4.2 V8 TFSI 485ch (356kw) 4WD Ravage

Couple de 550Nm à 4000tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 5.9s Vmax 250km/h (electronical limited)

Consommations: 22.6l (ville) 12l (route) 16l (mixte)

Poids total : 2260kg



3.0 V6 TDI 240cv (176kw) 4WD
550Nm di coppia a 1750tr/min
peso a vuoto: 2290kg
0-100km/h in 8.5s Vmax: 210km/h
Consumi: 11.3l (urbano) 7.8l (extraurbano) 9.1l (media)












4.2 V8 TDI 326ch (240kw) 4WD

Couple de 760Nm à 1800tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 6.4s Vmax : 236km/h

Consommations : 14.9l (ville) 8.9l (route) 11.1l (mixte)

Poids total : 2420kg



Sobek



3.0 V6 TFSI 290ch (213kw) 4WD

Couple de 420Nm à 2500tr/min

0 à 100km/h en 6.3s Vmax 250km/h

Consommations : 13.3l (ville) 7.6l (route) 9.7l (mixte)

Poids total : 1890kg



3.0 V6 TFSI 333ch (245kw) 4WD Ravage

Couple de 460Nm de 2900 à 5300tr/min
0 à 100km/h en 5.7s Vmax: 250km/h (electronical limited)
Consommations: 14.8l (ville) 8.2l (route) 10.5l (moyenne)
Poids : 1890kg




3.0 V6 TDI 240cv (176kw) 4WD
510Nm di coppia a 1500/min
peso a vuoto: 1940kg
0-100km/h in 7.2s Vmax: 235km/h
Consumi: 9.4l (urbano) 5.9l (extraurbano) 7.2l (media)




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MessaggioTitolo: Re: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Mer Gen 21, 2009 3:40 pm

This is certainly a very good list. Can you specify the origin of this motors (the producers brands)? Also if someones are easy to recognize Cool
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MessaggioTitolo: Re: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Mer Gen 21, 2009 3:44 pm

Anyway, what Hp think of that? Do you have others programs or special motors?
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MessaggioTitolo: new engines   Mer Gen 21, 2009 3:45 pm

This motors are issue from the Audi / VW range!
There are some all new motors : 3.0 TFSI V6 or 2.0 TDI 180ch!!!
This engines are performant and efficient!
All the technical specificities are real (realist!)!
I hope Hp accept this new engines!! Wink
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MessaggioTitolo: Re: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Mer Gen 21, 2009 3:49 pm

You can't find same motors in different brands to vary? lol! lol! lol!
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MessaggioTitolo: Re: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Mer Gen 21, 2009 4:10 pm

Oh, Jeremy, tu est un super travailleur!!!! Shocked Very Happy congratulations! geek
i think the motors are good very good as performances and technology, but it's true that we don't want to take all our motrs
from a same brand... for exemple, i think for Sekmet would be good to take italians or british motors, and for some "ravage" models,
perhaps some "subaru" motors or like this?
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MessaggioTitolo: Re: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Mer Gen 21, 2009 7:06 pm

J'attend aussi l'avis d'HP, mais bon, c'est vrai qui le travail est tres bien mais on prefere ne pas choisir tous les moteurs d'un seul constructeur...
je ne veux pas donner l'impression d'un lien ou quand meme d'une preference explicite Very Happy

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MessaggioTitolo: explications sur les moteurs Audi!   Gio Gen 22, 2009 1:14 am

C'est vrai que d'un coté vous avez tous raison, c'est bien de choisir aussi des moteurs venant d'ailleur!
Maybe your are right, it's not ever a good thing to take motors from an only brand!

Mais d'un autre coté, je vous explique:
J'ai choisis ces moteurs car ils sont tres performants et tres modernes et pourtant tres économique! Pour moi les moteurs à injection directe plus turbo, il n'y a pas mieux et peu d'autres constructeur que VW savent aussi bien faire cela!!
I like this motors because there are performant and efficient!!!! For me direct fuel injection and turbo suralimentation are the future, and no one bette can do this than VW, you will never find so good motors in other brand!

Mais bon, je suis aussi d'accord de travailler sur d'autres moteurs, mais plutot pour les grands modèles, les modèles communs comme la Isis, Serapis, Bast, Faraon et les 2 SUV devraient prendre ces moteurs! surtout en diesel car il y a pas mieux que les nouveaux TDI! Wink
But I can work on other brands engines if you want, but I think it's better to put my ideas in commun models as same as the Isis, Bast, Serapis, Faraon and the 2 SUV! For the other cars it is maybe interessant to use other motors! but in diesel you never find better engines than TDI!!!

So, finally I must admid I'm a really big VW fan!!!! I love you
There are good cars with efficient motors!
So give real ideas and propsitions for the engines and I work an this and give you a list!
Thank you for your suppositions!! and thank you tulippano (have you a real name) for the french words! Wink
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MessaggioTitolo: Re: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Ven Gen 23, 2009 10:30 am

Wow!
Really a long complete list fully detailed Very Happy
Let me say I really like the idea to have 4WD engines in many models cheers especially for Sekmet I love you
The engines are anyway really performant and suitable with the models of the current Akenaton range... the TDI and turbo diesel engines it's something really interesting and shall be a must in the engines of the current and future Akenaton car Very Happy
About the fact that there's only one brand you use I can have some doubt.. not because the VW engines are not good (they're REALLY good insteed) but just to have more choice especially for car such as the Faraon/Sekmet/Cleopatras or the Ravage version... For example I chose Ferrari or Porsche engines and too much performant engine such as the Koenigsegg CCXR engine affraid for the Sekmet Ravage... well maybe you can say that they are a bit too much for a common car but I was thinking the Ravage version like something really extreme Very Happy
Anyway that's are just alternatives and I finally say that your list is really good and for me is ok Very Happy and if I have any strange idea about special engines we will talk about them Very Happy
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MessaggioTitolo: Re: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Ven Gen 23, 2009 10:31 am

SEBA will you update the new engine list in the website? bounce
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MessaggioTitolo: Re: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Ven Gen 23, 2009 10:58 am

Jeremy, you speak about the second generation of this models or you want to add this motors to current range?
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MessaggioTitolo: new engines   Ven Gen 23, 2009 2:19 pm

Okay for this: we can use VW/Audi engines for Isis, Bast, Serapis, Aegyptus and Faraon (the Audi A6 is a good basis!!!!! the new Quattro transmission is exceptional and can be have the proprieties of a propulsion!!) and for the KingValley!
For the next small car (BA) we may use the iQ engines and plateform!
And for the other models you are right, it's better to use very performant engines from Ferrari or Porsche or others... Cool
So Hp, when you have idea, tell me about, so I can give all the technical specifications of all engines (Ferraris, Porsches, Mercedes and all others... cyclops ) ok???

To C-Metisse, I want to say: I think, yes of the idea to integrate new engines in the actual range! but only if Seba and Hp accept!
And only for the communs models (see in green!)
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MessaggioTitolo: Re: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Ven Gen 23, 2009 2:45 pm

Ok I actually agree cheers
let's wait for what SEBA will think about.. anyway I think to integrate the new engines in the actual range Very Happy
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MessaggioTitolo: Re: All new 2009 motor range! 1st part   Ven Gen 23, 2009 3:15 pm

Nothing made in BMW? Perhaps for the future Serapis coupé and Bast II coupé-cabriolet?
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MessaggioTitolo: Sorry, no BMWs for me...   Ven Gen 23, 2009 8:39 pm

For the moment I don't want to use BMW engines in the Serapis and Bast, even in the next generation!
I like BMW, but I have a preference for new technologies and small turbocompressed engines made by Audi!! for the curent cars!!
But we can envisage BMW engines for bigger cars!

I think of a differents cars on BMW basis: - a X6 type SUV: a melange of SUV and Coupé!
- a mix of break and SUV with coupé style (see the BMW PAS!! based upon the next 5 series!)

But thats a secret! silent I tell nobody of this! that's my strange ideas! Wink
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